March 28, 2008 at 5:27 am #934AnonymousInactive
It’s been almost 2 weeks since we had our last meeting, the topic came up regarding members, having recently joined the radio society and having very little knowledge on radios except that I have an interest in learning, I found the topic of new members to be the most significant bit of information that I have heard from the last two meetings. I have been to four meetings thus far, the first two were very informative, Elmer spent an hour or so on both occasions disguising the inner bits of radios, even as a newbie I was able to digest some of the information. The last two were boring no content at all, a little swapping of goods but generally a waist of time.
As I am new to radio’s I am starved for information I have a full time job and do not have alot of time to self indulge in the radio world. I was counting somewhat on the strengths of others to help get me started down the road of knowledge. The meetings should be a place of show and tell with some theory and in depth discussion, those that have the knowledge have to impart it upon those that are willing to learn. I know that I sit in a group of people with many years of experience and if it is not shared properly it will do nothing for those of us that are trying to learn, and if we are not learning then who will pass the knowledge onto the next new group of people.
I think if we are all properly stimulated then the group will survive, and I think if there is not that stimulation then the numbers may dwindle, I want to keep coming but I need to learn, I myself have to travel 4 hrs to take in a two hr meeting .
These are my comments from someone who is new and in no way do I intend to be critcal of the CVRS. I hope through discussion that the CVRS can reinvent itself and begin to grow.March 29, 2008 at 5:57 pm #940Gerry O’HaraKeymaster
Some very good points Dave and I think these were all well expressed in the AGM section of our BC Chapter meeting a couple of weeks ago also. Initiatives such as more structured and organized meetings, ‘themed’ meetings, someone responsible for content and planning will all help if we implement them. The thing is, and we all must bear this in mind, is that the ‘CVRS’ comprises ONLY its membership – it is not some sort of institutional entity with a mandate to provides services to its members, rather it relies totally on the enthusiasm and effort invested by EACH ONE of its members and in those members seeing a value in investing their time and effort in such activities. It was a little dissapointing to see no hands raised at the AGM when Don asked whether someone would take on the meeting content planning – I almost did, but I am already quite commited with the Newsletter and other extra-curricula activities, as well as holding down a very demanding full-time job plus family commitments, so felt that someone else should probably step up to that particular plate. Relationships, of whatever sort, only work if those in them continue to see a value and are only as good as the level of effort expended by the participants… So I agree – lets all participate and do what we can to keep this great and valuable hobby alive, kicking and interesting enough to attract and maintain new ‘blood’.
GerryApril 1, 2008 at 3:08 am #954AbbotsfordGerryForum Participant
Great Comments Dave:
The last CVRS meeting was my first, and I am a lot like you, wanting to learn. Over 40 years ago, I was in the Canadian Navy as a "Radio Man". I was only in for 6 1/2 years, and the equipment back in the late 50’s was all tube stuff. To be classified as a fully trained Technicial Person in the navy you had to have completed what they called trade group 4. Every so many years, you would be offered another trade group course. Unfortunately, I only completed Trade Group Two, and back in the early 1960’s considered myself as a half trained technician. However, when I left the service, I did not follow the technical radio vocation, and became a telegrapher on the railway instead.
When I turned 65, I became interested in the old radio’s and wondered if I could remember enough to repair them. That was nearly 3 years ago, and my journey continues slowly. I struggle with the technical end, especially hands on with test equipment. The good thing is, there are a lot of material available to help us newbies out. Three books that I have found useful in my re-training have been:
"The All-American Five Radio", by Richard McWhorter.
"Old Time Radios! Restoration and Repair", by Joseph J. Carr.
"Antique Radio Restoration Guide", by David Johnson
All of these books are available through either https://www.radiodaze.com or Antique Electronics Supply.
One of the mistakes that I made, was getting into a complicated multiband RCA console with AM, Short Wave and FM. It turned out to be a real challange, I started it June of 2007, and only now have it working fine on AM and Short Wave, (Not FM yet). I have become pretty good with the AC/DC simpler sets, and would recommend that one should stay with those until you feel comfortable with your ability.
We need the older techies to share their knowledge with us. One of the way’s that we might be able to help them to share that knowledge with us, is when we are working on a project and need help, use this forum and get the older members to provide advise. We should not worry about how trivial the question might be, ask it anyway. This will help us newbies bond with the older members, and gain some of their techniques.
here’s an example, Can someone out there tell me in what sequence, and step by step procedures I must use to trouble shoot the FM in my RCA Model 80. I have a signal generator capable of covering from 100 KC’s to 110 MC’s with a modulated 400 cycle tone. I do have a VTVM, but do not have a High Voltage RF Probe, and I also have a very cheap hand held oscilloscope, that I do not really know how to use yet. But I can put it in Automatic Mode, and it will display the signal that it see’s in that circuit.
I have included a picture of the bottom of the Chassis, (with progress) of the RCA Model 80 that I am currently working on.
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